Jay Sims



Name:________________________________________________________ Period:_______Episode 6: The Case Against Adnan SyedReview “Spin”: 1. What does it mean to “spin” something? What pieces of evidence did the prosecution “spin” to use against Adnan?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________In this episode, Koenig examines all of the evidence that could be/was used against Adnan in court. Consider the validity and significance of each piece of evidence. Rate 1 (not important) to 3 (very important)Evidence(Record Details )How it can be used against AdnanWhy it may be insignificant Level of significance “Palm print” on map book Adnan asking for a ride in Hae’s carAdnan’s lack of memory Adnan’s contact/ lack of contact with HaeEvidenceHow it can be used against AdnanWhy it may be insignificant Level of significance Hae’s letter/ Adnan’s note to Aisha (7:39)Dave’s call to the police (9:18)“Cathy’s” account of the evening (13:15)Jenn’s account of the evening (24:00)EvidenceHow it can be used against AdnanWhy it may be insignificant Level of significance The Nisha Call 26:302. Koenig notes that the Nisha call is what makes her question Adnan when she can rationalize everything else away. Do you think it is as important as Koenig makes it out to be? Explain.___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________3. What bothers Adnan most about how people perceive him? Can you relate to Adnan on this point?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________4. Can you relate to how Koenig feels in being unsure about her feelings about the case and her understanding of what happened? Explain. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________5. After reviewing the evidence against Adnan, do you think he is being honest about the evening Hae is killed? Explain. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Episode 7: The Opposite of ProsecutionIn this episode, Koenig reaches out to expert Deirdre Enright who works with Virginia’s Innocence Project. Enright gives insight into Adnan’s case. What is Deirdre Enright’s first impression of Adnan’s case? (4:00)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is the “big black hole” according to Enright? Do you agree or disagree given what you know about the case thus far. (5:15)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Enright say about innocent clients? How might this relate to Adnan? (8:30)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Enright think about the state’s case against Adnan?_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Koenig asks, “but isn’t the fact that they did put him away mean they had enough to put him away?” What does Enright say about this? (15:00)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Enright reads an e-mail regarding the evidence in Adnan’s case. What is the main point of this? (19:00)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is the first thing the Innocence team does when they begin? Why is this significant? _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you were sitting on a jury, would you need to know the answer to who did commit said crime, or just who didn’t do it? (i.e. Do you think the team will have to prove who did kill Hae, instead of just showing Adnan is innocent?)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What do Enright’s students think of Adnan’s case? What are their reasons for this? (23:00-30:00)_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Both Koenig and Enright have important information, Koenig as the narrator, and Enright as an expert. Who do you consider more effective in providing information? Explain. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Episode 8: The Deal with JayYou’ve been waiting for it! Koenig takes a closer look at the suspicious person of Jay. Jay’s credibility was the State’s case so Adnan’s lawyer tried to “rip it to shreds”. How did she attempt to do this? (Consider strategies, word choice…)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What are Trainum’s opinions about Adnan and Jay?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is “bad evidence”? (16:30)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How might “bad evidence” factor into Jay’s testimony?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What did Jay tell Chris about the evening of Hae’s murder? (28:17)____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Like there are multiple sides to Jay, Chris and Patrick describe a different side of Adnan. What do they say about him? ( 32:58)____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What happens at Jay’s sentencing? Do you agree with the decision made? Explain. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Consider the evidence:Who do you think are the best sources for understanding Jay as a person? What do they say about him?____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Has your opinion of Jay changed? Are you considering a different aspect of his personality? Explain.___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Based on your understanding of Jay, what do you think about his testimony in court? To what extent is it true?____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Episode 9: To Be SuspectedAs the podcast develops an audience, those who knew the people involved begin to contact Koenig. What is the new information Koenig discovers? How is Koenig’s narrative being influenced by real time events?What does Laura say about phones at Best Buy? Is she a reliable source?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Summer say about the timeline the state proposes? Is she a reliable source?________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Koenig suggests that with this new evidence there could be no way Hae was murdered by 2:36pm. The State, however, based their entire case around this call. Who do you think is most correct? Explain.________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Who does Koenig thinks called Adnan at “Cathy’s” that night? How does that change our understanding of “Cathy’s” memory?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How does Adnan describe his experience during the trial? About finding out about Hae’s death? (12:00-14:45) ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Krista say about the night they find out about Hae? What does she say that shocks Koenig? Are you surprised?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What are the two ways Koenig can interpret this action? How does this connect to Poe’s The Tell Tale Heart?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How did other people describe Adnan’s reaction to Hae’s death? (16:08) What does Detective Tranium say about this? ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________When the police come to question Adnan, what is he most concerned about? What would he tell his 17 year old self?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Adnan focus on during the trials? (24:00)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How does Adnan describe his social life in the prison? What can we learn about him? Do you think this is important to understanding the case? (26:50)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Adnan say about the process of the trial and sentencing? (30:00)______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How does Adnan react to the public defender’s speech during sentencing? Does this make you believe Adnan?______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Why does Adnan say he is lucky?____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Why does he consider the situation his own fault? Do you agree?____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________The prosecution says that Adnan can’t admit to the crime after all these years. His parents have put too much time and money into defending him. What does Adnan say about this? Do you agree or disagree? (39:21)______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Koenig ends by telling us that despite the evidence, she has reasonable doubt that Adnan committed the crime because of his character. Given Adnan’s insistence that only evidence be looked at, and Trainum’s advice to discount character descriptions in deciding guilt or innocence, do you think it is fair that Koenig comes to this conclusion? Do you agree or disagree with her conclusion?____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Episode 10: The Best Defense is a good DefenseThis episode examines key aspects of Adnan’s trial including the possible influence of racism, Gutierrez as a lawyer, and other revelations during the trial. What do you think was the biggest influence in Adnan ultimately being found guilty?People believed that Adnan’s case was influenced by racism. What does Koenig think? (5:30)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What are examples Koenig shows of anti-Muslim sentiment creeping in?( Consider jury selection, the prosecution’s account of the audience at the bail hearing, the report given to the prosecutors regarding race and culture, terms used by the prosecution in developing Adnan’s motive…) (6:00-15:58)_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Jurors said that they were not influenced by Adnan’s race; they saw him as a typical American teenager. To what extent do you think this is possible/ true?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Did Cristina Gutierrez blow it? How does Adnan feel about Cristina Gutierrez? (18:45)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What was her defense strategy in court? Do you think this was effective? Explain. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Why does the first trial end in a mistrial? (20:28)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What verdict was the jury of the first trial leaning toward?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Koenig notes that Gutierrez’s main target was Jay. Rate her effectiveness in cross examining Jay. Do you think she presents a clear argument? Is she persuasive in her cross examining of Jay? Explain with specific examples. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Jay’s dealJay had been charged with accessory after the fact. He had an agreement that if he showed up and testified it would be reflected in his sentence. What was strange about how he attained a lawyer? Do you think there was more going on than is being said? (33:10)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is the judge’s reaction to this revelation? Do you think this is appropriate?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Koenig notes that Gutierrez was having trouble late in her career. What was “not right” about Christina at this point?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What do the Whitmans say about Christina? What issues did they have? (44:10)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Why was Gutierrez in trouble with the attorney commission?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Adnan’s Appeal: IRLAdnan’s petition for appeal is based on ineffective council, specifically regarding Asia’s potential alibi for Adnan. Do you think there is a basis for this appeal? Did he receive ineffective council?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Adnan is also petitioning because he says he asked for a plea deal which Christina did not attempt to negotiate. Koenig seems skeptical that Adnan would ask for a plea deal. Why is this?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Adnan say about this? Do you believe him?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Which do you think played the most significant role in Adnan being declared guilty: racism, ineffective council, a strong prosecution, the evidence against Adnan, or other factors? Explain. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Episode 11: RumorsHow does Koenig keep listeners engaged at the beginning of the podcast?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Few people from the Mosque are willing to talk on the record. Why?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How did fear affect people in Adnan’s community? (6:00-8:00)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is the major rumor Koenig hears about Adnan? (10:22)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Does this change your opinion about Adnan? Explain. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How does Adnan react to this allegation? ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How does he tell the story? What does he think about it now that he is an adult?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Charles says that most killers are ordinary people. Does this surprise you?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What are some of the theories presented by people who knew Adnan?* Note: fill in Jane’s idea, answer question 10, then return to the chart.Jane Effron(Teacher)23:00KoenigLaura 25:45Their theoryYour opinion about their theoryKoenig asks if a normal kid could up and do this. Is snapping a thing? What is the response? (23:55)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Episode 12: What We KnowThe finale…?Can you relate to Koenig’s feelings going back and forth between thinking Adnan is innocent or guilty? As the narrator, do you think she should be more certain?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Don say about the day Hae goes missing? (3:25)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is the difference between his first response to Hae’s disappearance and Adnan’s? What does this tell us about Don? (5:20)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What is similar between Adnan’s and Don’s responses? __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What did the State want from Don’s testimony? (8:47)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Josh say about Jay? Do you believe him? (11:21)____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Does Josh’s account make Jay seem more or less reliable?__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________The Nisha call reviewed: What information does Dana find that might change the significance of the Nisha call? (25:13)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________They look at the cell records again in more detail. What happens when they look at the records again? What do they come to speculate? (28:35)__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What do they say seems most likely about where Jay and Adnan went that afternoon instead of the mall? Why does it make Adnan look more suspicious?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ What does Julie think about the 3:21 call? Why is it confusing? (31:24)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Julie ask about the discrepancy between Jay’s and Jenn’s stories? __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________How does Koenig try and justify the State’s motive? Do you agree with this idea? Why/why not?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What does Deirdre find out? Do you think this is significant? (44:08)___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ................
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